Posts by The Rebel

Freemindfade no I didn't go to the moon. and I will partisipate in any debate conducted in a respectful way. I am happy to concede my critical thinking skills may not be the best,and that my knowledge of the subject limited. I would ask posters to appreciate that.

So why did I bring the topic up? Well like myself I am also sure that most people who have never doubted the Apollo moon landing have never thought about nor have they looked at the science. ( what does that say about critical thinking?)

That is not to say I will conclude man didn't go to the moon, but shouldn't all things be researched with an open mind?

My independent research has led me to the genocide in Vietnam. I wonder if the money from NASA subcontractors was from the same companies that made the weapons of mass destruction?

Did the Appollo programme distruct from Vietnam?

Those questions may have nothing to do with if man landed on the moon, but personally I am pleased my research has bought the subject to my attention.

As i am only researching. I also have not had time to check the validity of many statements people have made on this thread. ( hence my silence from the debate)

personally I may well believe man did land on the moon, but do I trust governments "OOH so that's why we were over there. And it wasnt an act of terrorism, and it wasnt for the oil. It was publicised for many years what was wrong with the English Establishment. Only now has it been finally taken seriously that a list of politicians from across the political spectrum In England, maybe should have been accused of abusing children, including the late cabinet minister Leon Britton, Liberal Democrate Sir Cyril Smith, and former Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath. If these accusations are proved true I am pleased those who were ridiculed for exposing these crimes are vindicated. The point being what what was to absurd for people to believe may now be true.

i am pleased I started this thread, I have found it informative, and hope comments can be posted in a constructive and not offensive manor, I mean what's the point of insulting and trying to make somebody look foolish.

The Rebel.

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Let's get offensive...it's ridiculous

by The Rebel in

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wow shall i start with classic books and films?

no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .

ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.

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Slidin Fast, you make a great point about critical thinking, and of course it's much easier to do that IF we are fortunate enough have the Internet. Which is great, because whilst I don't agree religiouse magazines like " The Watchtoer" and " Awake" should be banned, I am very grateful they can be exposed more easily for what they really are.

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Please how can I create account in jw.org

by COLLINS in

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i want someone in the forum to teach me how i can create account in jw.org and also the confidential area in jw.org please.

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Hi Collins, you have created 4 threads in 19 minutes.

Why not create one thread with all the information you require on?

Anyway welcome to the board, we are both newbies finding ourselfs around.

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Let's get offensive...it's ridiculous

by The Rebel in

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wow shall i start with classic books and films?

no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .

ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.

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Go set a Watchman, is Harper Lees new book, Atticus Finch is a racist and people are outraged. They don't seem to understand fictional characters are allowed to be what ever the author wishes.

Mind you the book is an early draft of " To Kill Mockingbird" and I think it would have been best left on the files.

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England just won back the ashes

by barry in

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yes england just won back the ashes at trent bridge.. by an innings and 78 runs and their celebrating like a pack of wild dogs.. if it wasn't for the royal commission all australia would be in serious depression tonight.

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Barry your icon of " Basil Fawlty" with that snobbish and synical smile says it all...especially as in Basil's day it wasn't only English cricket that was crap, our national football team was shite also.

Congratulations English Cricket is now something to be proud off. Now where is the " Fosters !"

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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T.D thank you for the comment. I assure you I started this thread because the subject is of interest to me. I do not claim to be an expert on each thread I start, ( if I were I probably wouldn't start the thread in the first place) I will continue to use this board as a discussion forum in which I will enjoy cross pollinating ideas with both experts and those like myself interested in the subject, in the hope that I acquire a broader knowledge on the subject matter.

Viviane. Thank you for your question. I do not intend to be be shot down like cannon fodder by your reply, and so will do some real research before I reply. I will however reply and look forward to your response.

I must say I didn't expect this thread to become so long, and thank you everyone for the posts serious and humorous which having just now leafed through I can not help but suspect man did in fact land on the moon.

The Rebel.

p.s thank you to the kind poster who gave my posts so many green thumbs up, I appreciated this as a new poster on the site

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I now hate being called 'sister'

by purrpurr in

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since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.

but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".

it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.

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Well I must admit I never really liked being referred to as " brother" and I am even less pleased with currently being referred to as " an apostate". So much for the " brotherly" love.

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Let's get offensive...it's ridiculous

by The Rebel in

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wow shall i start with classic books and films?

no let's start with t.v and what was never high culture- " confederate flag gets dukes of hazard yanked" .

ok this was just entertainment to me, that i never recall being racist.

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Secretslaveclass " perhaps I'll wind up living in the Amazon". May I suggest Fitzcaraldo to you in which Klause Kinski, brings Opera to the Amazon. A brilliant Wernor Herzog movie.

Back on topic, times and the English usage change and I totally agree the " n " word is offensive now, but at the time Tom and Huck were written it was not used as a racial slur. However why I write, is I have just finished flicking on my remote trying to find an action and adventure show to watch, it's so depressing " F" this and " F" that. Every character a low life and aggressive. I could go on about what the real " talents" needed of an actress in these shows are,but let's end with the observation that most of these modern action and adventure shows would never have been able to get on air in my day, and I can't help but wishing that were the case today.

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Passing ships in the night and the disobedient compassionate brother.

by The Marvster in

just wanted to talk about two odd df'ing experiences i had; which gave me the 'personal' lesson that there are some in the wt who are definitely not militants when it comes to the whole disfellowshipping regime... .

passing ships in the night - the irony.

quite a while back, a brother turned up at my last congregation, he came to a few meetings and then i didn't see him for several weeks, and all of a sudden comes the announcement, he got df'd.

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I seriously believe many in the organisation could no more individually shun a person than they would physically hurt another. Of course when in a group, and the group mentality takes over, it always amazes me how many compromise their own independent moral and ethical principals. But I have noted similar behaviour since I was a child at school, and it continues in the work place today.

Even when I was in good standing, I noted the congregation had its pack of wolves waiting to pounce, I used to pity them, now I am just glad I no longer have regular contact with them.

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